White people erase yet another NYC landmark... TADs Steakhouse closes this Sunday after 60 Years

Times Square Budget Steakhouse Tad’s Closes Sunday After Nearly 60 Years

I am so sick of this shit. They come and everything fucking closes down because the rents become too fucking high. A bunch of the businesses, stores, even smaller markets have been closing by me in Brooklyn over the past few years, ever since Whitey decided Brooklyn was the new Hot Spot. I am so sick of them destroying city after city, erasing culture and landmarks. We get it, whitey has no culture so they need to feed off everyone else's like fucking Vultures, but enough. Get lost. Stop invading where you have no business being.

I find Honky to be a more effective slur than Whitey.

It sucks that restaurant is closing, I know how you feel.

We used to have a nightclub in downtown Denver called Rock Island. They opened in the 80s and primarily played "alternative" music and heavy techno. Just down the street was the Wazee Supper Club, which had amazing pizza, and was a great late night hangout for the freaks and weirdos in the neighborhood late at night.

They built condos next to Rock Island in the aughts, and a bunch of suburban fuppies moved in, and started complaining about the noise.

Yeah, you bought a condo next door to a night club - what did you expect? Rock Island wound up closing down, and then rents in the neighborhood went up and the Wazee Supper Club shut down.

The last time I was in there it was a 45 minute wait for a table, and the place was full of fuppies and their kids, so it wasn't the same anyway.

I feel your pain. In my case it was rich Whities driving out non-rich Whities, but it still sucked.

R1 and what does that mean?

America is a business more than anything. Wanna change shit open a business and stop whining OP. The lack of imagination is the worst of all sins.

R2 the whites closed one of the few actual Gay Bars in Brooklyn this past Summer also. Everything good is closing because of them.

Is OP a black person telling all of the white people to go back where they came from?

OP I urge you to consider the idea that Tad’s, home of grizzled cuts of supposed steak & cold baked potatoes might be too important to you. Certainly you can find another restaurant of numerous health code violations closer to home. The commute to Times Square alone must’ve been exhausting for you.

Funny how no one complains about gentrification when their property suddenly gains 5-7x its value.

And how is this thread not flagged as blatantly racist? Let someone post a similar “there goes the neighborhood” thread because blacks moved in next door and see how quickly they’re out on their ass and greyed out.

R8 that is History. Whites always had that attitude but they think it’s ok to move into urban areas. It’s pathetic.

So, r9, it’s not OK for whites to move to “urban areas”?

So I take it you prefer segregation, then, right?

It makes no sense to blame this on honkey white crackers! Since Times Squares was never much of a residential district nor a place where POCS had a large business footprint. It's idiotic. Mr. Blackity Black Outrage McBlack needs an urban history lesson.

Times Square was very urban in the 70s and 80s. White people sold out to tourists and now whitey has made it impossible for businesses to stay open.

R10 read what was written again. Whites have kept blacks out of their neighborhoods for decades upon decades, and when they see black people get in they move out themselves. Yet they see no issue with moving into black peoples areas but if it is the other way around it’s an issue...

What you're saying are the white people keeping black people out of their neighborhoods so the neighborhoods remain segregated are the same white people who are moving also into black neighborhoods, thereby desegregating them.

In other words: they want to live with them AND not live with them.

White people moving into black areas isn’t to be around black people. It is to push them out. And you know it.

Generalizing is at the root of so many problems. The minute you do it to one group, you give them all, if not permission, the rationalization to do the same. It’s poorly thought out. It’s ineffective. It’s boring. Criticize greed, not an entire race.

Greed was born from an entire race....

[quote]And how is this thread not flagged as blatantly racist?

Datalounge has become tedious with all these straight, stupid guys crying about reverse racism all the time.

[quote]Datalounge has become tedious with all these hypocritical, stupid guys who believe that racism is restricted to White folk.

[quote]White people moving into black areas isn’t to be around black people. It is to push them out. And you know it.

No I don't.

I live in a mixed neighborhood & you're generalizing.

I thought they were gone from NYC eons ago. The last one I saw was near Union Square in SF.

I'm in love with R7 and want to spend the rest of my life with them.

I live in Downtown Brooklyn now, and a lot of parts here used to have mostly black and Hispanic people, and now it is almost all white. This 26 year old blonde twink near me told me he knows a very fit, handsome gay white man in his 40s that moved into this area about 15-20 years ago. They recently spoke (the older man always flirts with him but also will not fuck him as he feels he is not "age appropriate") and the young man asked the older man what brought him to Downtown Brooklyn (he is originally from the Midwest) and the older gay man told him referred to himself as a "gentrifier". The young man asked him what he means by that and was told that he moved into a black area intentionally because his presence would bring more white people into the area, which would raise the value of the properties, and then would "clean out" the area. The young man and him went back and forth a bit, until the young man accused him of being a racist, and then they got into a real argument, leading to the older man accusing the younger one of having "white guilt" and it got bad. They both blocked each other completely.

He showed me who the man was, and once in a while I see him (most recently the week of Thanksgiving) and I want to say something to him so badly, but decide to just shut my mouth and keep it moving. But I want to give him a piece of my mind sometimes, but he is a wealthy white man (this is what started the conversation between the two, why is a white gay man with money moving into cheap black areas?) and he could easily get me in trouble, as I am a black gay man.

What really caught my attention is that the young man I know told me when he accused Older of being a racist, he never denied it, and if a black person messages him on Grindr or anything they get an automatic block.

OP offers us a number of questionable assumptions, not the least of which is that Tad’s was a steakhouse let alone one whose closing we might mourn. Anywhere that sells red wine in a Saran-covered glass is not somewhere DL denizens of any color would gather. Or admit to gathering, anyway.

So what’s really bothering you this lovely January morning black outrage troll?

White people have never moved into black urban neighborhoods with the expressed purpose of "removing blacks" from the neighborhood. Many whites moved into black neighborhoods for economic reasons. Also people don't seem to understand that gentrifiers are not all rich. Many are scraping by young professionals. I rented from 2 BLACK landlords, for example, in Fort Greene. Both landlords would ONLY rent to whites like my self. Also, both landlords did not hesitate to throw me out as rents rose in the neighborhood. Why rent to a lower middle class white guy for 1K a month when you can double the rent to 2K and rent to a upper middle class white guy? Thats the way it worked in the 80s and 90s, anyway. Playing the real estate game is COLOR BLIND. Many many blacks played it well and came out millionaires. Sorry our Black Pride troll on DL was left behind.

I wouldn't call Tad's a "landmark" but its been there for a long time. Also, there are way better restaurants in the area.

R23 writes excellent fiction.

Anytime someone speaks on REAL issues someone claims it is fiction.

When will you grow the fuck up?

[quote] Both landlords would ONLY rent to whites like my self.

Oh, dear (times 2)!

Back in the day, Tad’s was an affordable place to eat before the theater. Food wasn’t great, steaks were like shoe leather, salad was just iceberg, salad dressing was watery. But those baked potatoes were the best I ever had.

Good memories for a mere $1.99!

R8 I got news for you boy. Those urban neighborhoods were historically white until the blacks drove them out. We’re just taking back our neighborhoods. Please leave and take your crime, drugs, hoes and gangs with you. We’re taking ing back our neighborhoods and You are not wanted here.

R32 nothing belongs to whites. Nothing.

All I know is that in my city, there was an "affordable housing" apartment building built in a middle-upper-class white neighborhood of primarily single family homes. The apartments were rented by about 90% black folks. Within a year, there were over 200 police calls to that apartment building...shots ringing out day and night, numerous assaults, burglaries, etc. Nobody now avoid the neighborhood entirely. Whites who own homes there are stuck, nobody wants to buy them.

So it goes both ways.

Race-baiting posts are annoying.

Also, R32, read a bit. Leave your little KKkingdom for a bit.

R34 like my Uncle said, it’s not about race it’s about social status.

We know white trash that are worse than more black stereotypes

Has anyone on this thread ever read A Raisin In The Sun? Just asking.

R23, my mother grew up adjacent to downtown Brooklyn in the 1930s and said there were no blacks or Hispanics there. She also lived in other Brooklyn communities like Flatbush and Bay Ridge and likewise they weren’t black or Hispanic until 1960s. So, I don’t think it’s unprecedented for white people to live in Brooklyn. They’re moving back, so? What if the blacks moved back to the south or the Hispanics moved back to the DR? Maybe the people there would say “oh shit why these folks moving here and ruining shit?” when in fact their families originally came from there.

Not racist at all OP. (sarcasm) You are as ignorant as the redneck racists you claim to hate, yet have more in common with them than you think.

R39 ummmmm sweetie hate to break it to you but that was the stupidest shit you wrote.

Banks, baby. Banks do this shit. Michael Bloomberg turned the entire city over to the banks.

White people? Invest a little more thought into your analysis. Racist cliches are easy. Thought takes a little effort.

Hate to say it (I'm as white as can be) but OP is right. I'm witnessing the phenomenon of rapid, white gentrification in a nearby neighbourhood and they're destroying it while deluding themselves that they're preserving "what makes this special neighbourhood unique!" (actual marketing language from a developer working there). Baudrillard's simulacra concept very much applies. What was a very neat, bohemian (but not too bohemian), middle-class neighbourhood will by this time next year be completely converted to yet another of the horrible, sterile, culturally zombified twilight zones we whites (and, by my observation, also Westernized East Asians) tend to create in recent decades.

Why are we acting like this is only happens to Black and Brown neighborhoods?

Anybody been to WeHo lately? Those fucking breeders ruined our beautiful playground. White straight people have also always moved in to take over a neighborhood after the gays move in and clean the place up. Don't know why any of you are defending them.

Is that a home and garden magazine r38?

Gosh Racist Troll. Tell us more about your cultural accomplishments through protests, stealing and drug abuse. I'm all ears how you've made your communities better and more livable when you're a racist bitch.

r44 same thing in Vancouver's West End. Was a pretty great gay village in the 90s-00s. Now it's a bunch of hetero yuppies who made a special point of painting the bus shelters pink and adding rainbow crosswalks as a sign of... respect, I guess?... for the working and middle class gays they've mostly pushed out. It has to be acknowledges also that gays have spread out from those neighbourhoods naturally as tolerance and acceptance have grown, which is the bright side.

As Ignore-dar reveals, OP is of course the "store executive" who was yesterday complaining about "white liberal rich people" (here called simply "whitey") moving into NYC and coming into his store and annoying him about opening headphones cases because he has so many more important things to do with his time.

R32, you ofays have a lot of nerve complaining about so-called crime after you stole this land from the Indians.

R46 should crack open a history book.

We want drugs legal. We want sex work legal. They are here to fucking stay. They are legitimate businesses and should not be banned by the state.

Looks like really shitty “food”. Hopefully something better will open in its place but this is Time Square we are taking about so I have my doubts.

It'll probably be another Chick-Fil-A.

For a high-class "store executive," OP really has a surprising taste for ratched restaurants.

Pizza Rat was a NYC landmark until he was priced out by whitey so he has moved upstate.

This is terrible for people who crave the taste of old horseflesh.

[quote] What is Pizza Rat?

Oh I'm glad you asked, Rose, because it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the rat carrying the pizza slice in the video at r55.

It's actually the odd name of a kittycat living in the NYC subways that really, really likes to eat shawarma.

[quote] We want drugs legal. We want sex work legal. They are here to fucking stay. They are [bold]legitimate[/bold] businesses

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

I once took my sister to TADs for lunch during a heatwave about twenty years ago. Aircon was a huge windmachine that did nothing but spread the diners' BO around so you didn't have to smell the food. I had a steak and was fine, she had chicken and spent the whole weekend pissing out of her arsehole. Glad to hear from R7 that things hadn't changed since.

The food was good. I never had an issue

[quote]you ofays have a lot of nerve complaining about so-called crime after you stole this land from the Indians.

Native Americans were homicidal maniacs who were constantly waging war on each other.

When there were (ridiculously ill-founded) rumors in 2008 that Michelle Obama was recorded railing against "whitey," she contemptuously (and rightly) responded, "I mean, ‘whitey’? That’s something that George Jefferson would say."

It's nice to see OP bringing us back to George Jefferson's level of language.

The Leni Lenape were not a waring people. However, jealous tribes surrounding them wanted in on the trade with the Dutch and Europe and increased their pressure on the Lenape. The Susquehannock conquered and DISPLACED the Leni Lenape and then the northern, vastly more sophisticated Iroquois conquered the Susquehannock. Oh wait, doesn't that sound familiar?

The last time I ate at a Tad's was is in 1965 at a 34th street location.

My aunt had taken us to visit the observatory at the Empire State Building. I don't remember much about the ESB but I vividly recall the tough-as-shoe-leather gristley streak I was served at Tad's.

OP do you also miss Zum-Zum's, the Hawaii Kai, Hamburger Heaven, Chock-full-of-Nuts, Wienerwald and Schraft's?

R66, yes ... and Dosanko and Steak & Brew Burger. Imagine all the beer could drink with your meal! What a concept! And fuck yes, I am old.

R68 I'll meet you at Mama Leone's.

Starting in JrHS teachers took us to matinees and we would go to Mama Leones before the train back to the suburbs. The food was usually as crappy as the show we saw.

You say that like it’s a bad thing, r67.

May you get to his age one day.

I didn't say it like it was a bad thing, r71. That's your misconception.

Then my apologies.

Sincerely.

After I wrote my post I realized that, depending on inflection, you could’ve been teasing. So I truly apologize.

No problem, r71/73. Glad to have cleared it up. Have a nice evening!

I have fond memories of Tad's. I had attended the splendid display of flesh at the Gaiety Theater, where I went into the back room and feasted on the ass of one of the dancers who I had recognized from a porn film. After feasting on ass, I decided to " enjoy" another of the classic Times Square establishments, Tad's. You have no idea how good the " steak" tastes after an appetizer of porn star ass.

R71, curious. How did you mean it? What you wrote hardly reads like a compliment.

It's happening in all cities. San Francisco keeps losing long running restaurants due to rental greed.

In the Castro, we now have 15 empty storefronts.

And, R66, Amy's had the best frozen yogurt ever.

As for Tad's, NO ONE is going to miss Tad's Steakhouse.

OP points out what he or she considers to be the problem, which is easy. If you think it truly is a problem, what’s the solution?

I visited a family-owned Italian restaurant that I frequent last week and had interesting conversation with the owner: he’d been approached by Olive Garden to sell his restaurant that has been here (suburb of large Midwest city) for decades. He backed out when he realized they were just going to close it (he’s their local competition). I thought maybe he was looking for an exit strategy to retire, but had always thought he’d leave it to his two sons who help him run it and also opened a pizza joint in another ‘burb.

No. He said he only entertained the offer because a NYC guy bought the building and jacked his rent up to $6K/mo. He still doesn’t know what he’s going to do (sell, close, move). It’s really sad, as he’s been successful there for years until this. The space next to his has been three different things over the last five years (Irish pub, Hawaiian restaurant, and for now a Thai restaurant).....all failed.

This is how you end up with nothing but chain restaurants.

I'm still mourning the loss of Jesse's El Conquistador in Silverlake, also due to jacked up rents.

Sorry, can't relate. I live in Flyoverkastan so I don't care about something called TADs Steakhouse in NYC. We grow our steak here from baby cows and grill it the same day we kill it.

r76, I didn't articulate it the way I should have but I was thinking in relation to my own age. I feel ancient in my 40's from all the things I've seen come and go but r66 saw more. I hope I get to his age.

R84, fair enough. I appreciate your reply. And you’re not ancient. I’m in my 59s still having a great time. Life is still getting bigger & better. Best wishes!

R84, sorry to break it to you, but your 40s are your absolute prime. Seasoned, experienced, and still young enough to get it up and keep it up, actually and metaphorically.

In your 50s, wee surprises will begin to creep in ever so slowly. Things change. Some things diminish, but other new and wonderful things take their place.

Good luck. Enjoy tomorrow, but enjoy now, too.

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